351 questions

I gotta a few questions 'bout a 351 W into my '89 coupe. (going to carb or maybe a new project car).

What's a good donor car. I heard (from ROB) that a Crown Vic is good but I forgot what years (1981-85?). There's old vans and f-150 (?) and a bunch of cars with that motor out there. What should I look for. I'll be putting in a performance cam and porting the heads (maybe bigger valves). I really just want a motor with a solid bottom end, that burns no oil. Heads, intake, better cam and stuff can come later, just need a place to start (a.k.a. blow money). Is there a site where I could get a listing of cars that came with a 351 W ?

Also do all or any 351W's have roller cams ? Any insight would help. Anything for a few more ponies helps. If no roller cam, is it possible to put one in with out machine work ($). I would like a motor that rev's but a 351 W is inherently low rev hight torque motor. Or am I on drugs.

I really have very limited knowledge about this stuff and if you you are like me please don't post. Right know no info is better than inaccurate info.

Thanks for reading the ramble.

P.J.

get a chev 350, they are better engines anyways.


I dont know what cars you can get a donor 351 from, but if you want a 350 jsut let me know.

Originally posted by PeaJay
I gotta a few questions 'bout a 351 W into my '89 coupe. (going to carb or maybe a new project car).

What's a good donor car. I heard (from ROB) that a Crown Vic is good but I forgot what years (1981-85?). There's old vans and f-150 (?) and a bunch of cars with that motor out there. What should I look for. I'll be putting in a performance cam and porting the heads (maybe bigger valves). I really just want a motor with a solid bottom end, that burns no oil. Heads, intake, better cam and stuff can come later, just need a place to start (a.k.a. blow money). Is there a site where I could get a listing of cars that came with a 351 W ?

Also do all or any 351W's have roller cams ? Any insight would help. Anything for a few more ponies helps. If no roller cam, is it possible to put one in with out machine work ($). I would like a motor that rev's but a 351 W is inherently low rev hight torque motor. Or am I on drugs.

I really have very limited knowledge about this stuff and if you you are like me please don't post. Right know no info is better than inaccurate info.

Thanks for reading the ramble.

P.J.

Just ask Mercury he will answer all

I would probably stay away from the truck or van motors because they usually run with lower compression than the cars would. I would also try to find an late 60's early 70's 351 out of a decent car. It may be harder to find but thats what id go for if your looking at getting it going as is and still having some power.

Originally posted by PeaJay
I gotta a few questions 'bout a 351 W into my '89 coupe. (going to carb or maybe a new project car).

What's a good donor car. I heard (from ROB) that a Crown Vic is good but I forgot what years (1981-85?). There's old vans and f-150 (?) and a bunch of cars with that motor out there. What should I look for. I'll be putting in a performance cam and porting the heads (maybe bigger valves). I really just want a motor with a solid bottom end, that burns no oil. Heads, intake, better cam and stuff can come later, just need a place to start (a.k.a. blow money). Is there a site where I could get a listing of cars that came with a 351 W ?

Also do all or any 351W's have roller cams ? Any insight would help. Anything for a few more ponies helps. If no roller cam, is it possible to put one in with out machine work ($). I would like a motor that rev's but a 351 W is inherently low rev hight torque motor. Or am I on drugs.

I really have very limited knowledge about this stuff and if you you are like me please don't post. Right know no info is better than inaccurate info.

Thanks for reading the ramble.

P.J.

all those words and i dont know what you are asking for out of the engine. if you are gonna do a stock rebuild type thing right now, I would go to a crown vic(in the 80's) and whether it is roller or not, get either a new roller/hydraulic or flat tappet/hydraulic cam(some sort of street/strip type cam, that wont push clearance issues[the cam and also how the heads flow will be a big deal in making power....]), clean up the heads, 3 angle valve job, or replace valves, throw an rpm performer 351 intake on, a good set of headers(there are tons of 351 swap headers for foxes), and I would probably include a good set of roller rockers(whichever ratio you may be lookin at) but leave all the stock bottom end(rebuilt of course).... IMO


about the revving and makin power, it's a small block, I have seen 9000RPM stroker windsors (and easily enough non stroked windsors). they can make power anywhere, just get a cam that corresponds to where you want it to make power. IMO I would get a cam that makes it's peak between 3000 or 3500 and upwards of 6000-6500ish... I would either get a built up c-4 auto or jam a stick behind it and have some fun :wink1. not hard to do and very budget friendly.... any other questions, ask rob(mercury), I suppose I know a few things whether some owuld believe that or not :wink1, and denes(ponylegacy) is in the midst of a 408(stroked 351) build up right now....


hope this helped and you take my advice :p


oh btw, if you dont wanna go look for a windsor and are unsure of what you may be getting, check bargain finder or quick times. just as cheap as pulling your own windsor and definately easier. I have seen many in there.

idealy you would like to find an early motor.. 69 to 73.. but its one of them things your not gona get ... its to hard to find..

get one from a pasanger car and have it rebuilt..
almost any aftermaket head and she will make very nice power.
the swap requires the ignition modual from the 351, the compleate motor..
and a set of swap headers. and a your stock fly wheel should work fine

Rob

Originally posted by Mercury
idealy you would like to find an early motor.. 69 to 73.. but its one of them things your not gona get ... its to hard to find..

get one from a pasanger car and have it rebuilt..
almost any aftermaket head and she will make very nice power.
the swap requires the ignition modual from the 351, the compleate motor..
and a set of swap headers. and a your stock fly wheel should work fine

Rob

as you may have already noticed, Rob and I could work well together ideally in one of these situations.. :wink1

Originally posted by Luke5.0
as you may have already noticed, Rob and I could work well together ideally in one of these situations.. :wink1
yep

if your going to have it totally rebuilt just see if the shop can get a core block crate motors have also become very popular. but otherwise just like rob said

Originally posted by Black Ice
but otherwise just like rob said


i said so much:no:

Originally posted by Luke5.0
i said so much:no:

Don't worry luke we still think your special :wink1

this has to be one of the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Just because there are more of them doesn't make them better. befor you post someting do the research. compair the common small blocks 302,305. 340.350.351,360. the chev is atleast a class back.
GMC Garbage motors Co.

Originally posted by never_2_fast
this has to be one of the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Just because there are more of them doesn't make them better. befor you post someting do the research. compair the common small blocks 302,305. 340.350.351,360. the chev is atleast a class back.
GMC Garbage motors Co.
I like this guys attitude

But only one of these guys is admin lol

Originally posted by never_2_fast
this has to be one of the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Just because there are more of them doesn't make them better. befor you post someting do the research. compair the common small blocks 302,305. 340.350.351,360. the chev is atleast a class back.
GMC Garbage motors Co.

we have some strong opinions here lol
ill keep mine to my self for now :)

not going to touch this one...could get messy

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

Originally posted by RoadWarrior
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
easy there tony :wink1

Originally posted by Mercury
easy there tony :wink1
nice one rob:2up:

No my nose isnt big enough.

Originally posted by RoadWarrior
No my nose isnt big enough.

you should get a nose job to make it bigger so you can be cool

back on topic...

i found a doner car today ill ask about ti tomorw..
a 351 car.. running..

ill get back to you guys

Rob

So what's up with the donor car.


By the way thanks for all the people that replied to the post.

P.J.

btw what the heck is "quicktimes" is it an online thing or some paper.

Originally posted by PeaJay
So what's up with the donor car.


By the way thanks for all the people that replied to the post.

P.J.

btw what the heck is "quicktimes" is it an online thing or some paper.

quicktimes is a sales/resales publication directed toward the racing community.. it's like a bargain finder with only race stuff in it... www.quick-times.com

they are free with purchase from most high performance type shops in e-town and calgary....

After looking on the internet it seems that the 351 windsor didn't come with roller cam until 94. What do you guys know about this.

Originally posted by 88notchAOD
nice one rob:2up:

hahaha good one!! :2up:

Originally posted by Bimmer
you should get a nose job to make it bigger so you can be cool

I know you wanna try to be like me so much.. email me for tips

Mr5oh, hmmm

Start your own thread.


P.J.

Originally posted by Bimmer
After looking on the internet it seems that the 351 windsor didn't come with roller cam until 94. What do you guys know about this.

not much but if you can get a roller block that way if you go to convert to roller it will be cheaper